By the 90’s I had joined the National Speakers Association and I was booking myself as motivational speaker. My income more than doubled as I was speaking to major corporations, in house, in seminars and at conventions. I was traveling all over the USA.
I presented programs on the topic of Self-Management, Creativity, and Product Promotion and I did some sales training.
Soon I had other magicians asking me to help train them to do the same. So I started magic2motivate with tricks, routines and training seminars just for magicians. I conducted several one and three day seminars here in Florida and in other locations around the country, including the Magic Castle.